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boriZh
24.01.2011, 12:13
Par mesecev se nam je celotno omrežje večkrat "sesedalo" (beri: ni delal ne internet, TV, niti telefon). Ker mi to ni dalo miru in sem bil prepričan, da je nekaj narobe z modemom, sem kupil nov router (Asus WL-500GU). Sedaj je MNOGO bolje, celotno omrežje skoraj nikoli ne pade dol, a to še vedno ni to. Je mogoče čas, da nam SiOL zamenja modem?

No, pa pridem do problema s komunikatorji. Danes nam na nobenem komunikatorju ne kaže številke programa, le uro. Pravtako včasih dela, včasih ne...

Poleg tega problema danes nam na enem komunikatorju (enak je kot drugi, le da je sivo-črn, drugi je popolnoma črn) povezava večkrat prekine, včasih kocka itd. Drugi komunikator dela brezhibno, razen ko pade celotno omrežje.
Prvi komunikator, ki ima največ problemov, je star cca 4 leta, drugi, ki pa deluje brezhibno, pa cca 1.5 leta. Je čas, da se komunikator zamenja? Ga SiOL brezplačno zamenja?

Aja, imamo Trio do 10Mbps.

Hitrosti (merjeno z ugasnjenima komunikatorjema):
DL: prišlo je tudi že do 9.50Mbps, a je večinoma okrog 7-8Mbps
UL: večinoma 0.86Mbps
Ping se je zelo znižal, za kakih 15-20, odkar je Trio do 10Mbps (prej je bil 1Mbps/256Kbps)

Prosim za pomoč in komentarje.

Želim vam lep ter zasnežen dan.

Boris

080 Tehnična pomoč
27.01.2011, 12:13
Prosim če mi posredujete vaše kontaktne in uporabniške podatke na ZS.

LP Jernej

boriZh
27.01.2011, 20:02
Sem jih že zadnjič. Naslednji dan je prišel tehnik, opravil meritve in dejal, da se mu zdi čudno, da pride do našega priključka tako malo. Mislim, da bi se spodobilo spustiti nazaj na 13Mbps, da bo prišlo vsaj 10Mbps do nas (z ugasnjenim TV). Nekaj je sicer zrihtal (en konektor je zamenjal) in pogruntal, da gre komunikator proti koncu oz., da je zanič tisti priključek za napajanje (to mogoče drži, ampak to ne pojasni problemov s komunikatorjem.... saj se ne ugaša komunikator, le slike zmanjkuje). No, starša se včasih pritožujeta tudi glede kockanja, mene pa skrbi predvsem ping.
Je komunikator, ki smo ga dobili ob podpisu pogodbe za 24 mesecev naš ali vaš?
Monter je dejal, da ima isti paket ko mi, in mu dela precej lepše, je pa verjetno kje iz naših koncev... Od centrale smo oddaljeni okrog 1200m po moji presoji.

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Imam še par vprašanj glede idealne postavitve modema:
- Je bolje, da je kabel iz priključka do modema daljši, ali je bolje, da so daljši UTP kabli? (trenutno je do modema potegnjen cca 6m kabel za WAN)
- Bo razlika opazna, če prestavim modem čisto zraven priključka in potem UTPje vlečem do posameznih naprav?
- Prvič, ko je prišel nekdo priklapljat (daljnega 2004, če se ne motim :rolling:), je zvezal tako, da je potegnjen kabel doštukal in vmes vezal neki dve diodici (vsaj na videz)... vodi to do kakšnih izgub?

Evo, za prvo silo bo:
http://www.shrani.si/f/3E/S2/2zg0Dqna/ojoj.png
(štukan WAN kabel)

Ni mi problem malce spremeniti napeljave, ampak prej prosim za odgovor, ali bo to smiselno :2thumbs:

Hvala že vnaprej....

Boris

krepki
27.01.2011, 20:08
Modem moraš imet čim bliže vtičnici,po možnosti zamenjat ploščat kabel do modema z UTP kablom,ker ploščat kabel je prava antena za motnje.
Od modema naprej lahko potegneš do 100 metrov kabla in ne sme bit nobene izgube.

boriZh
27.01.2011, 20:25
Ploščat kabel... kateri je to mišljen? Tisti z RJ11 priključkom (mislim, da je RJ11)? Tanek kabel, ki se vključi v modem (vhod WAN)?

rambo013
27.01.2011, 20:28
Če se da, je bolje da zamenjaš kabel do vtičnice, če je res vmes "doštukan". Pa si to omenil temu monterju, ki te je obiskal? Jaz imam kakšnih 10-12m dolg utp do modema (WAN), direktno iz "omarice" v modem, torej nobene vtičnice vmes. Če gre kje mimo elektrike, je še bolje da vzameš ftp kabel, je še dodatno izoliran.
Od tam imam 15m utp do komunikatorja, včasih kocke (zadnje dni malce več kot prej) odkar imam 10M pa sem nekako kar zadovoljen z zadevo.
Ping se mi pa zdi precej normalen za paket s TV-jem (verjetno je normalno tam 40-50).
Komunikator je pa tvoj, modem je (vsaj velika večina) last Siola.
Glede oddaljenosti, tudi jaz sem nekje na taki oddaljenosti, pa mi je ob meritvi pokazalo max. sinhronizacijo cca. 20 mega...
Ploščati kabel je tak, kot ga ima ponavadi telefon in ja, če ga kupiš narejenega ima konektor RJ11, utp pa RJ45.
Pa je bolje, da ti nekdo napravi utp kabel z RJ 11 konektorjem.
Tole je to...
http://www.google.si/imgres?imgurl=http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2005/11/23/pc_interfaces_101/rj11.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-interfaces-101,1177-10.html&usg=__W-Z7iT3fHvL78scYLalGrxpIsyM=&h=297&w=425&sz=12&hl=sl&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=iwuiaMdfEFn_ZM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=161&ei=_MdBTYWsC4LsOb764MEB&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drj11%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsl%26client%3Dfi refox-a%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:sl:official%26biw%3 D1024%26bih%3D554%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=114&vpy=110&dur=1245&hovh=188&hovw=269&tx=125&ty=99&oei=_MdBTYWsC4LsOb764MEB&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0

boriZh
27.01.2011, 20:33
Potem je najboljša varianta, da potegnem kar UTP kabel iz omarice do modema?

rambo013
27.01.2011, 20:37
Jaz sem ga, res pa da ga nisem priklapljal sam (ne vem če ga lahko), sem pač začasno zvezal in izoliral. Ob obisku tehnika mi ga je on priklopil.

boriZh
27.01.2011, 21:36
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Normalno?
Kakor za koga. Zame ne :nonono:

boriZh
28.01.2011, 10:15
Pravkar izmerjeno:
Pinging www.siol.net [89.143.249.33] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=350ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=85ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=152ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=216ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=62ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=65ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=58ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=124
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=59ms TTL=124

Ping statistics for 89.143.249.33:
Packets: Sent = 26, Received = 26, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 45ms, Maximum = 350ms, Average = 78ms

Vse v mejah normale? :rolling::rolling::rolling: ne ravno :)

Haha... speedtest:
Download: 93,3kB/s
Upload: 106,0kB/s

Zanimivo! :))) Še 1Mbps ne dosegam trenutno, kaj šele 10Mpbs :)))))

boriZh
30.01.2011, 21:16
Odkar smo zamenjali kabel do omarice, je precej bolje. Lepša je slika na TV, enkrat mi je celo uspelo izmeriti skoraj 10Mbps DL, UL ostaja isti (0.82-0.84Mbps). Jutri baje pridejo Telekomovci pogledat, če je napaka na njihovi strani (prejšnjič so izmerili upad prenosa med telekomovo in našo omarico). Ping je vidno boljši, a še vedno večkrat skoči v višave. V povprečju pa je nižji za 2-5ms.

boriZh
31.01.2011, 15:56
No, danes (mislim, da) jih ni bilo...
Največje težave so z 95.176.241.* ali 95.176.253.* ...
Včasih pa tudi z BSN-access.dsl.siol.net. To je omarica ali kaj?

boriZh
02.08.2011, 00:07
Mimogrede, odkar sem pri konkurenci, so se težave (tudi do siol.net) čudežno rešile :2thumbs:

ping www.siol.net -t

Pinging www.siol.net [89.143.249.33] with 32 bytes of data
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=120
Reply from 89.143.249.33: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=120

Ping statistics for 89.143.249.33:
Packets: Sent = 25, Received = 25, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 42ms, Maximum = 46ms, Average = 43ms



Opomba: vklopljenih imam precej več programov, ki vplivajo na to, kot pri pinganju iz časov SiOLa :)

Vse deluje hitreje, brez kockanja po TV. Precej več stvari za manj denarja.

Brez zamere, ampak 7 let SiOLa je bilo dovolj.

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