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  #41  
Staro 24.10.2005, 21:44
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Vibeke je super! Sej to hočem povedat eni so totalno zatopljeni v Tarjo kot neko Boginjo. Čeprov je še dost pevk ( tut v metalu ), ki se lohk kosajo z njo. In tut jst upam, da bodo šli NW z novo pevko po stari poti Oceanborna.

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  #42  
Staro 24.10.2005, 22:20
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Jah sam razlika je v tem, da brez Tuomasa sploh ni NW. To je njegov band, ki si ga je on zamislil in ne Tarja, kar mnogi tuki mislijo. Tko, da Tarja se lohk sam lepo zahvali Tuomasu, da je danes to kar je in naj ne joka kok so jo na grd način vrgli vn iz banda.

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If only my heart had a home
  #43  
Staro 24.10.2005, 22:39
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Ojej...gu gu gu...še slabš, kot če bi Smrkljo bral.


In zanimivo popolno spreminjanje mnenja o nekom, ki se ga ne pozna, nima z njim nobenega stika...samo na podlagi nekih govoric...dejstvo je da nihče popolnoma nič zares ne ve kakšna je "gdč.Polna Luna", niti kakšen je "g.Lepi Metrotežkorokerseksualec", niti odnosa ostalih članov benda. Itak pa da je "bila" diva in (vsaj po napisanem sodeč) je želela imeti kar ji pripada. Glede na njen performans (in samo to je pomembno za nas poslušalce) je imela čisto dovolj dober profesionalni odnos...če so pa drugi hoteli imeti še družinske družabne odnose, pa je to njihov problem in nima nobene veze z bendom.

Vsekakor pa bi bili Nightwish brez Tarje absolutno nič. Kot bodo tudi sedaj. Ona je pritegnila poslušalce, s tem ker je edina ženska v metalu, ki "zna" peti in ima razpoznaven in močen glas in ker je s tem pasala v tisto povprečno (tako opevano avtorstvo tomyja) šolsko banalno spackane pompoznosti v štiririfnem metalu (prav po vzorcu spisano, kar pač ni neka strašna umetnost). Sej je fajn zvenelo skup to potem, ampak brez nje bodo postali samo še eni povprečni dolgočasni After forever, White skull, Macbeth, Theater of tragedy, Leave's eyes...z dobesedno cvili babami, ki jih presega večina pevk v pop bendih, ki so izgubljeni v povprečju.

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  #44  
Staro 24.10.2005, 23:03
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se strinjam...kul ok, model se je spomnu met band pa mu je dal ime nightwish pa reku, ej kaj pa ce bi mel operno pevko? ne vem no, niti ni tok zlo izvirno, pa tut ce bi blo, zarad tega se vedno ni nek bog...

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  #45  
Staro 25.10.2005, 15:18
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quote:Originalna objava Madbringer

Ojej...gu gu gu...še slabš, kot če bi Smrkljo bral.


In zanimivo popolno spreminjanje mnenja o nekom, ki se ga ne pozna, nima z njim nobenega stika...samo na podlagi nekih govoric...dejstvo je da nihče popolnoma nič zares ne ve kakšna je "gdč.Polna Luna", niti kakšen je "g.Lepi Metrotežkorokerseksualec", niti odnosa ostalih članov benda. Itak pa da je "bila" diva in (vsaj po napisanem sodeč) je želela imeti kar ji pripada. Glede na njen performans (in samo to je pomembno za nas poslušalce) je imela čisto dovolj dober profesionalni odnos...če so pa drugi hoteli imeti še družinske družabne odnose, pa je to njihov problem in nima nobene veze z bendom.

Vsekakor pa bi bili Nightwish brez Tarje absolutno nič. Kot bodo tudi sedaj. Ona je pritegnila poslušalce, s tem ker je edina ženska v metalu, ki "zna" peti in ima razpoznaven in močen glas in ker je s tem pasala v tisto povprečno (tako opevano avtorstvo tomyja) šolsko banalno spackane pompoznosti v štiririfnem metalu (prav po vzorcu spisano, kar pač ni neka strašna umetnost). Sej je fajn zvenelo skup to potem, ampak brez nje bodo postali samo še eni povprečni dolgočasni After forever, White skull, Macbeth, Theater of tragedy, Leave's eyes...z dobesedno cvili babami, ki jih presega večina pevk v pop bendih, ki so izgubljeni v povprečju.
Word!!


Glede ostalih bendov po sistemu 3-5 tipov s čupami + ena bolj ali manj luštna bejba v korzetu bi dodal tole.

Če odmislimo dele zadnjega NW albuma se lahko vsi ostali bendi skrijejo, enkrat sem na nesrečo ujel na Vivi neko nemško domislico in lahko rečem da če bi z zarjavelimi grabljami praskal po tabli tačas ko so fantje žagali bi bilo bolje.

Res je da NW tukaj ne bi bil brez Tarje ne pa pozabit da kljub vsemu je možnost da bi jim uspelo najti zamenjavo. Če obstajata 2 "gdč polni lunici"(Tarja in ona iz Evanescence, ki sicer ni operna pevka ampak vseeno s svojim napenjanjem vleče cel bend odzadaj) ni vrag da ne bojo našli še ta tretje. konec koncev mislim da pred Tuomasovim bivališčem že kampira kaka horda deklic, ki bi rade nasledile Tarjo, in so pripravljene še kaj drugega kot samo pet... NW je vseeno neko ustvarjeno ime, znamka, ki ima potencial da pritegne kako punco Tarjinega kalibra.

Gotovo pa imajo že zamenjavo ogledano in je marketniški team že v polnem pogonu, da se bo punco predstavilo. Saj dvomim, da bi manegerji založba itd. pustili Tuomasu naredit tako potezo brez primernega plana nadaljevanja, sploh pa zato ker je NW komercialno daleč najuspešnejši band v tem Žanru.



Nekateri ne razumejo, ne vedo ali pa preprosto nočejo vedeti ali razumeti !
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Staro 25.10.2005, 18:57
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Ma sej ne bi bli lih prva skupina na svetu, ce bi propadli ...
  #47  
Staro 25.10.2005, 20:23
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Na uradni strani od Tarje se je pojavilo njeno sporočilo.

Since last Sunday morning, I have been asked to express my position by magazines, newspapers, radio and TV stations, fan clubs and fans from Finland and from all over the world. So many in total that it is physically impossible for me to find the time to reply to them all individually. Hence I decided to put down a couple of words in this text to let my fans, family and friends and the public know how I feel after the recent events.

This is a moment of grief and pain and I find it very hard to speak.

At the moment I am in Argentina. I hope you can understand that after this shocking life change comparable to a divorce, I didn’t want to stay alone at home in Finland. My husband had booked his tickets to Argentina many months ago and I decided to travel with him at the last minute.

But the fact that I am in Argentina and the long distance should of course not be an excuse not to comment on the situation.

Last Friday 21st of October was a day the whole band had been waiting for a long time.

Practice started early in the morning. I was very sick and nervous because of the fact that I was not even able to sing during the rehearsals.

Also nervous because the concert programme was going to be longer than usual for a Nightwish concert. Furthermore we were going to have a special guest to perform with us, more wardrobe changes for myself than usual and for the first time big screens and bigger production on stage.

Not to forget that the concert was going to be recorded and filmed.

The five of us had finally made it to play Hartwall Arena.

Even though every one of us knew in advance that the concert was sold out, finally on stage, we saw that screaming, applauding and standing people took every seat. The feeling was unbelievable.

I will never forget how amazing it was to experience the Finnish audience’s gorgeous reception.

When the concert was over, I cried of happiness on stage. Happy tears because I was able to do my best as always even though I was sick. Happy tears because our long tour got the greatest possible ending and happy tears because of the best recognition an artist can get: applause and smiling faces.

At that moment I didn’t know that I was going to cry again soon.

After the concert, the guys of the band invited me backstage to join them and asked me to hug altogether. This felt strange as it was the same kind of hug we traditionally came together for before every concert. That tradition remained between us, even though the tension and increasing pressure already existed since a long period of time.

The immediate feeling in me was to thank them, which I did loudly but without any reply.

After this, they gave me a letter and asked me to read it the following day. The same letter that is now public.

I read it and was shocked.

I didn’t know what to say and still at the moment that I am writing these lines, I don’t.

I sense great anger in that letter and I continue to have very confused feelings about it, but I don’t want to reply to this anger with an even greater anger. Private matters should never be taken to the public.

I know this moment we are going through is very sad for everybody, including the guys.

While there would have been so many different possibilities and ways to express what they wanted to tell me with the letter, I remain unable to understand the way they chose to handle this. I am sorry that the guys got me so wrong. I don’t recognize myself at all from the way they described me.

They mentioned mean things about me, but the fact that they involved Marcelo, my husband, crossed the line. He is the man I love, my friend and has been my biggest support over the last years.

We have been band mates for 9 years, experienced good times and not so good ones. I thought I knew them, but I was wrong.

Still everything that has happened is not enough to make them evil in my eyes.

Now comes a time to calm down and reflect upon all of this.

I need to put my feelings together again and I promise to come back to public soon.
I will announce a press conference where I will be talking about my future plans. This doesn’t mean that you should expect this conference to be an instrument to attack anybody. It won’t.

The wonderful music we created together won’t be touched by recent events.

Thanks a lot to all the people who are supporting me during these sad times. My family, friends, colleagues, and the great number of fans. I love you and I really feel I have not failed you.

Tarja




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  #48  
Staro 25.10.2005, 21:09
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Mene pa zanima, ce je v zvezi s tem ze pripravljenih nekaj scenarijev za film ali kaksno mehisko telenovelo. Nekaj v stilu Humarjevega (ne)uspeha prek kaksnim mesecem.

Niso ne prvi ne zadnji s tezavami. So pa ocitno eni izmed redkih, ki teh tezav niso uspesni resiti med seboj, ampak se z ocitki obkladajo po internetu kot kaksni "wannabe" pisuni po casopisih v razdelku "Pisma bralcev".

Naj povejo, zakaj ne gre vec, vsak pove svojo plat zgodbe in stvar je koncana. Ne pa tele pisarije v stilu TV limonad. Meni tako ali tako ne bo nikoli jasno zakaj toliko pompa okoli njih.

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Staro 25.10.2005, 22:51
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Citat:
quote:Originalna objava GiGi
Res je da NW tukaj ne bi bil brez Tarje ne pa pozabit da kljub vsemu je možnost da bi jim uspelo najti zamenjavo. Če obstajata 2 "gdč polni lunici"(Tarja in ona iz Evanescence, ki sicer ni operna pevka ampak vseeno s svojim napenjanjem vleče cel bend odzadaj) ni vrag da ne bojo našli še ta tretje. konec koncev mislim da pred Tuomasovim bivališčem že kampira kaka horda deklic, ki bi rade nasledile Tarjo, in so pripravljene še kaj drugega kot samo pet... NW je vseeno neko ustvarjeno ime, znamka, ki ima potencial da pritegne kako punco Tarjinega kalibra.

Gotovo pa imajo že zamenjavo ogledano in je marketniški team že v polnem pogonu, da se bo punco predstavilo. Saj dvomim, da bi manegerji založba itd. pustili Tuomasu naredit tako potezo brez primernega plana nadaljevanja, sploh pa zato ker je NW komercialno daleč najuspešnejši band v tem Žanru.
Uh Evanescence ne zraven mešat, ker tisti bend je ...in pevka ni dobra, ampak samo najmanj slaba v bendu... in daaaaaaleč za Tarjo (da ne omenjam popolno nasprotje zvrsti muzike).

Sicer imaš pa prav...trenutno je pri NW v igri precej denarja, tako da se bi mogla primerna zamenjava najti (kaki nov talent, ali pa kakšno ženšče iz drugih glasbenih krogov). Poteza je pa itak načrtovana in premišljena...kot si rekel, kot da ima bend pri tem sploh kaj besede. :D

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  #50  
Staro 25.10.2005, 23:43
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Nightwish so že izbral novo pevko!Sicer se še odločajo katero oz. katerga bojo vzel http://takaisin.fi/nw/

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If only my heart had a home
 

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