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Staro 23.10.2005, 02:28
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Ekskluzivna, senzacionalna novica prihaja iz Finske. Tarja Turunen je včeraj v Helsinkih odigrala zadnji koncert z Nightwish, ker se je odločila zaključiti s kariero pri Nightwish in zapustiti band. Več informacij o tem bo verjetno znanih kmalu.

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Staro 23.10.2005, 03:17
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Dear Tarja,

It`s time to choose whether the story of Nightwish ends here or whether it will still continue an undetermined period of time. We`ve been working with this creation for 9 years and we are not ready to give up yet. Nightwish is a way of life, something to live for, and we`re certain we can`t let it go.

Equally certain is the fact that we cannot go on with you and Marcelo any longer. During the last year something sad happened, which I`ve been going over in my head every single day, morning and night. Your attitude and behavior don`t go with Nightwish anymore. There are characteristics I would never have believed to see in my old dear friend.
People who don`t talk with each other for a year do not belong in the same band.

We are involved in an industry where the business-side of things is a necessary evil and something to worry about all the time. We are also a band which has always done music from the heart, because of friendship and the music itself. The mental satisfaction should always be more important than money! Nightwish is a band, it`s an emotion.
To you, unfortunately, business, money, and things that have nothing to do with those emotions have become much more important. You feel that you have sacrificed yourself and your musical career for Nightwish, rather than thinking what it has given to you.
This attitude was clearly shown to me in the two things you said to me in an airplane in Toronto: ”I don`t need Nightwish anymore.” and ”Remember, Tuomas, that I could leave this band at any time, giving you only one day`s warning in advance”.
I can`t simply write any more songs for you to sing.

You have said yourself that you are merely a ”guest musician” in Nightwish. Now that visit ends and we will continue Nightwish with a new female vocalist.
We`re sure this is an equally big relief to you as it is for us. We have all been feeling bad long enough.

You told us that no matter what, the next Nightwish album will be your last one. However, the rest of us want to continue as long as the fire burns. So there`s no sense in doing that next album with you, either.
The four of us have been going over this situation countless times and we have realized that this is the thing we want to do in life. It´s all we can do. In December 2004, in Germany, you said that you will never tour again for more than two weeks at a time. You also said that we can forget about U.S. and Australia because the fees and the sizes of venues are too small.

In interviews I`ve mentioned that if Tarja leaves, that would be the end of the band. I understand that people will think this way. Nightwish is, however, a scenery of my soul and I`m not ready to let go because of one person. A person who wants to focus her creativity to somewhere else, a person whose values don`t match mine.

We were never bothered by the fact that you didn`t participate in writing/arranging songs, you never in 9 years came to rehearse the songs with us before going to the studio. Not the fact that while on tour you always wanted to fly, separately from us with your husband. Not the fact that you are an undisputable front image of the band.
We accepted and felt ok about everything except greed, underestimating the fans, and breaking promises. It was agreed by the five of us that Nightwish would be the priority in everything that we do during 2004-2005. Still so many things were more important to you. The ultimate example being the already sold-out show in Oslo, which you wanted to cancel because you needed to rehearse for your solo concerts, meet frieds and go to the movies. Those were the words Marcelo used in an e-mail explaining the cancellation. This being just one example of so many. I couldn`t think of a worse way of being selfish and dismissing our fans.

Nightwish is a way of life and a job with many obligations. To each other and to the fans. With you we can`t take care of those duties anymore.

Deep within we don`t know which one of you drove us to this point. Somehow Marcelo has changed you from the lovely girl you were into a diva, who doesn`t think or act the way she used to. You are too sure of your irreplaceableness and status.

It`s obvious that you blame your stress and misery on us four. And you think we don`t respect or listen to you. Belive us; We have always had the uppermost respect towards you as a wonderful vocalist and as a friend. And very often during the past couple of years the plans were made according to your decisions only. You were always the only one who wanted more money from the shows.
This ”compensation and more money from everything” –attitude is the fact that we are most disappointed of!

We wish that from now on you will listen to your heart instead of Marcelo. Cultural differences combined with greed, opportunism and love is a dangerous combination. Do not wither yourself.

This decision is not something we are especially proud of but you gave us no choice. The gap between us is too wide. And the decision is made by us four unanimously. We are beyond the point where things could be settled by talking.

All the best for your life and career,



Tuomas



Emppu Jukka Marco


Ps. This is an open letter for everybody.




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Staro 23.10.2005, 10:38
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A bi kdo v enem stavku napisal povzetek tiste odisejade zgoraj? :D







Gravity makes the heart grow fonder.


Med Tarjo in bendom je prevelika razpoka:D, zato bendu ni ostalo drugega kot, da sprejmejo to neprijetno odločitev, da Tarja odide.
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Staro 23.10.2005, 14:17
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DarkBloom, si sposobna svoje mnenje in poglede bolj kulturno napisati?

Sicer pa je to samo ena plat zgodbe. Treba slišat še drugo, a ne...



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Staro 23.10.2005, 14:28
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DarkBloom, si sposobna svoje mnenje in poglede bolj kulturno napisati?

Sicer pa je to samo ena plat zgodbe. Treba slišat še drugo, a ne...



I don't believe in love. I belive in ****ing. It's honest. It's efficient.
You get in and out with a maximum of pleasure and a minimum of bullshit.
A bi rada še Tarjino zgodbo slišala..mislim, da jo ni treba. Ker se ve kaka je, če z bandom ni niti govorila..njej je bil band samo posel. Pa njej fani niso nč pomenli. Zato jo pa tut nikjer ni blo.
Pa moj post je bil čist kulturen..don't u think

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A perfect concert my best friend
So much to live for, so much to die for
If only my heart had a home
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Staro 23.10.2005, 14:34
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Eh, bogsigavedi, kaj je vse za tem... sicer tudi meni Tarja nikoli ni bla ravno najbolj simpatična in bi kar rekla, da je marsikaj od tega res, kar je napisano v odprtem pismu - predvsem se mi zdi, da boleha za opasnim večvrednostnim kompleksom. Ampak vseeno bi blo treba slišat, kaj ima Tarja za povedat.




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Staro 23.10.2005, 14:43
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Eh, bogsigavedi, kaj je vse za tem... sicer tudi meni Tarja nikoli ni bla ravno najbolj simpatična in bi kar rekla, da je marsikaj od tega res, kar je napisano v odprtem pismu - predvsem se mi zdi, da boleha za opasnim večvrednostnim kompleksom. Ampak vseeno bi blo treba slišat, kaj ima Tarja za povedat.




I don't believe in love. I belive in ****ing. It's honest. It's efficient.
You get in and out with a maximum of pleasure and a minimum of bullshit.
Itak bi blo dobr, da tut Tarja pove svoje. Samo mislim, da je v pismu jasno napisano in da sploh ni potrebe po Tarjini razlagi. Ona nikol ni bila del banda. Samo poglej si End of Innocence dvd...na nobeni njihovi zabavi je ni. Skor nikjer ne govori in zdaj, ko se je poročila ji je ta Marcelo čist spral možgane Gre ji samo za kesh in naj zdaj uživa kot solo klasična pevka.

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A perfect concert my best friend
So much to live for, so much to die for
If only my heart had a home
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Staro 23.10.2005, 14:54
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Eh, bogsigavedi, kaj je vse za tem... sicer tudi meni Tarja nikoli ni bla ravno najbolj simpatična in bi kar rekla, da je marsikaj od tega res, kar je napisano v odprtem pismu - predvsem se mi zdi, da boleha za opasnim večvrednostnim kompleksom. Ampak vseeno bi blo treba slišat, kaj ima Tarja za povedat.
Sej, če pogledaš kakšn izmed njihovih zadnjih špilov, ti je vse jasno.
Verjetno bo hotla žrtev nardit iz sebe... štirje neotesani, rigajoči dolgolasci so se zarotil proti men...kk sam boga, še dobr da mi Marcelo stoji ob strani...

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Staro 23.10.2005, 14:59
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Saj zato pa so naredili takšen zanič (se pravi za rajo najboljši doslej) ta zadnji album, se skomercializirali čist... da bi še zaj pobrali največ dnara na zadnje, klko je možno.
Sem pa pogledala v real njihov špil v Lj in v bistvu... ja... mi je blo vse jasno.




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Staro 23.10.2005, 15:07
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Lohk rečem sam to, da Tuomas ima jajca in spoštujem njegovo odločitev ( v bistvu vseh štirih ), da so se odločli da vržejo Tarjo vn. Ona ni bla s srcem pri stvari kukr so bli ostali člani še posebej Tuomas. Pa ne skrbi me njihova prihodnost. Tuomas je perfekcionist in vem, da bo našel dobro pevko, ki bo znala pet in ji bo velik pomenlo, da poje v tem bandu in bo imela okus za oblačenje
In ja verjetno drži kot pribito, da ta komercializacija z zadnjo plato je zrastla v Tarjini glavi. Njej je šlo samo za uspeh...in je imela že dolgo v načrtu, da bo šla iz banda..tako, da zdaj je zadnjič še hotla orng zaslužit na račun Tuomasa, ker pozornost je pa itak vso sam ona pobrala.

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So much to live for, so much to die for
If only my heart had a home
 

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