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Ker opažam da je Zeitgeist (v nadaljevanju bo govora samo o prvem delu!!!) zelo pritegnil ljudi oz. so postali celo njegovi verniki, kljub temu da ne podaja nikakršnih dokazov, virov, analiz, ampak podaja samo nepreverjena, zavajajoča (podajanje konstelacije zvezd, ki sploh ni mogoča), dejstva ob hipnotičnem ozadju ,...skratka zanima me reakcija na dejstva, ki so podana spodaj. Dejstva, ki so podana spodaj razlagajo nekateri strokovnjaki, razloženo je bolj obširno vendar v vsakem pogledu (spet premalo podanih virov, dokazov,..) ne moremo z sigurnostjo trdit, da je to tisto pravo .
Torej kam se nagibamo,.. ob "nikakvih" dokazih se nagibati na katero koli stran je očitno zgolj zavzemanje pozicije dosedanjega pojmovanja te problematike. Torej če verjamem v rek:"religija je opij za ljudstvo" bom temu takoj verjel, ker potrjuje dosedanja moja prepričanja, ...če sem verski fanatik bom spet v vsaki točki zagreto nasprotoval, ker moja religija je edina prava in vse prej in kasneje se opirajo na mojo religijo,...če sem razumnež bom na vse skup gledal z skepticizmom ter iz strani možnih virov, dejstev, dokazov,..pa tudi prepričanj. -Zeitgeist Part One Exposed: The Film 2/8 -Zeitgeist Part One Exposed: The Film 1/8 -Zeitgeist Part One Exposed: The Film 3/8 -Zeitgeist Part One Exposed: The Film 4/8 -Zeitgeist Part One Exposed: The Film (5 of 8) -Zeitgeist Part One Exposed: The Film 6/8 -Zeitgeist Part One Exposed: The Film 7/8 -Zeitgeist Part One Exposed: The Film 8/8 |
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Po mojem bo najbolje da nehaš verjet, verovat itd... Začni razmišljati s svojo glavo. Razni časopisi, poročila, oddaje ala zeitgeist in podobne pa naj ti bodo samo orientirji, oporne točke v tvojem razmišljanju. Tako boš, če imaš vsaj 100 IQ, hitro razumel kako stvari delujejo.
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Pa kaj misliš, da so vsi tako neumni in, da neznajo v GOOGLE napisat "rojstni dan Mitra, Buda, Jezus ect." Vsak se bo lahko hitro prepričal, streljaš prazne klamfe. Glede na Ime in slikco v avatorju te je verjetno še najbolj prizadel del, ki opisuje kako so finančne ustanove iz ZDA finančno podprle vzpon budale od Hitlerja. PresScot Bush (dedek sedanjega predsednika ZDA) je bil zaradi tega pravnomočno obsojen. Tudi David Rockefeller (Žid) je stopil pred sodnike zaradi trgovanja z Naci Nemčijo... Wall Street Paves the Way for Hitler The Dawes Plan, adopted in August 1924, fitted perfectly into the plans of the German General Staffs military economists. (Testimony before United States Senate, Committee on Military Affairs, 1946.) The post-World War II Kilgore Committee of the United States Senate heard detailed evidence from government officials to the effect that, ...when the Nazis came to power in 1933, they found that long strides had been made since 1918 in preparing Germany for war from an economic and industrial point of view.1 This build-up for European war both before and after 1933 was in great part due to Wall Street financial assistance in the 1920s to create the German cartel system, and to technical assistance from well-known American firms which will be identified later, to build the German Wehrmacht. Whereas this financial and technical assistance is referred to as "accidental" or due to the "short-sightedness" of American businessmen, the evidence presented below strongly suggests some degree of premeditation on the part of these American financiers. Similar and unacceptable pleas of "accident" were made on behalf of American financiers and industrialists in the parallel example of building the military power of the Soviet Union from 1917 onwards. Yet these American capitalists were willing to finance and subsidize the Soviet Union while the Vietnam war was underway, knowing that the Soviets were supplying the other side. The contribution made by American capitalism to German war preparations before 1940 can only be described as phenomenal. It was certainly crucial to German military capabilities. For instance, in 1934 Germany produced domestically only 300,000 tons of natural petroleum products and less than 800,000 tons of synthetic gasoline; the balance was imported. Yet, ten years later in World War II, after transfer of the Standard Oil of New Jersey hydrogenation patents and technology to I. G. Farben (used to produce synthetic gasoline from coal), Germany produced about 6 1/2 million tons of oil — of which 85 percent (5 1/2 million tons) was synthetic oil using the Standard Oil hydrogenation process. Moreover, the control of synthetic oil output in Germany was held by the I. G. Farben subsidiary, Braunkohle-Benzin A. G., and this Farben cartel itself was created in 1926 with Wall Street financial assistance. On the other hand, the general impression left with the reader by modern historians is that this American technical assistance was accidental and that American industrialists were innocent of wrongdoing. For example, the Kilgore Committee stated: The United States accidentally played an important role in the technical arming of Germany. Although the German military planners had ordered and persuaded manufacturing corporations to install modern equipment for mass production, neither the military economists nor the corporations seem to have realized to the full extent what that meant. Their eyes were opened when two of the chief American automobile companies built plants in Germany in order to sell in the European market, without the handicap of ocean freight charges and high German tariffs. Germans were brought to Detroit to learn the techniques of specialized production of components, and of straight-line assembly. What they saw caused further reorganization and refitting of other key German war plants. The techniques learned in Detroit were eventually used to construct the dive-bombing Stukas .... At a later period I. G. Farben representatives in this country enabled a stream of German engineers to visit not only plane plants but others of military importance, in which they learned a great deal that was eventually used against the United States.2 Following these observations, which emphasize the "accidental" nature of the assistance, it has been concluded by such academic writers as Gabriel Kolko, who is not usually a supporter of big business, that: It is almost superfluous to point out that the motives of the American firms bound to contracts with German concerns Were not pro. Nazi, whatever else they may have been.3 Yet, Kolko to the contrary, analyses of the contemporary American business press confirm that business journals and newspapers were fully aware of the Nazi threat and its nature, while warning their business readers of German war preparations. And even Kolko admits that: The business press [in the United States] was aware, from 1935 on, that German prosperity was based on war preparations. More important, it was conscious of the fact that German industry was under the control of the Nazis and was being directed to serve Germany's rearmament, and the firm mentioned most frequently in this context was the giant chemical empire, I. G. Farben.4 Further, the evidence presented below suggests that not only was an influential sector of American business aware of the nature of Naziism, but for its own purposes aided Naziism wherever possible (and profitable) —with full knowledge that the probable outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States. As we shall see, the pleas of innocence do not accord with the facts. |
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Trdiš, da je film Zeitgeist manipulacija in da je brez argumentov... OK ![]() Predloži protiargumente... Tvoje argumentiranje ni nič drugega kot Geblsova antipropaganda |
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#5
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Ja Zeitgeist je manipulacija brez tehtnih, dokazljivih argumentov. Če bi natančno prebral nisem trdu da je "Zeitgeist Exposed" tisto kar je sigurno pravo vsekakor pa podaja veliko bolj argumentirano predpozicijo.
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Dejstvo pa je, da so navedbe iz Zeitgeista, veliko bolj verjetne in logične, kot pa pravljice iz svetega pisma, za katere moraš postaviti vso logično razmišljanje na stran, da jim lahko slepo verjameš in jih sprejemaš kot "nezmotljivo božjo besedo", za kar trdijo krščanske cerkve, da naj bi bile. |
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verjeti, da so navedbe v svetem pismu resnične
ali verjeti, da so navedbe v zeitgeistu resnične, ker se nam eno ali drugo "zdi" bolj verjetno, je enako neumno. |
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Dejstvo je, da sveto pismo je tu, tako kot je, in da je od nekod nastalo. Knjiga "The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold" (na kateri temelji tudi Zeitgeist), pač raziskuje ozadje nastanka religije in tisočletja stare mite in verovanja, na katerih temelji. RKC pa sveto pismo razlaga dobesedno - kot zgodovinsko resnico - kar je, seveda, neumnost. To, da ima religija svoje ozadje in svojo zgodovino, da so v ozadju miti, ki so se razvijali tisočletja, pa je dejstvo in temu ne moreš kar rečti neumnost.
Po tvojem so očitno itak neumni vsi, ki kar koli verjamejo. |
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simpl - dokaza za to, ali bog obstaja ali ne - ni. na veliko srečo "prepričancev", ki vneto prepričujete drug drugega, zakaj se vam "zdi", da je vaša "zgodba verjetno bolj pravilna".
![]() "argumenti" obeh strani so, seveda, enaki. sonce je pikasto, zato ker je: - nekdo tako rekel (bog, novinar, učitelj, župnik, vstavi po želji...) - v tisti knjigi piše, da je to res (v "sveti knjigi", šolskem učbeniku, zapiskih 87-letne sosede, vstavi po želji...) - na TVju so dokazali, da je to res (prikazani so dokumentarci, trditve, pričanja, itd., vsi so brez trditev, ki bi jih lahko posameznik preveril, kot, npr., lahko sam izmeriš čas prostega pada in se prepričaš, da newtonovi zakoni "v resnici" ne držijo, čeprav nas jih učijo kot "pravilne" ![]() ... in tako dalje... pri "the greatest story ever sold" gre ravno za to, kar stavek pove - za prodajo zgodbe. ![]() kje sem rekla, da je "religija brez ozadja in zgodovine" in je "dejstvo da miti obstajajo neumnost"? sprevračaš besede ![]() in ja, v osnovi ste trapasti vsi, ki brezpogojno verjamete v nekaj, kar vam je bilo prodano kot resnica, brez da bi se vprašali ZAKAJ JE TAKO (in domnevo šli preverjati). zakaj? ker tak način "verovanja in prepričanja", prevzetega od tretje osebe, ne zahteva nikakršnega "napora" (beri razmišljanja). |
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"Zeitgeist Exposed" mi ni dokazal obstoja Jezusa, Mitre, Bude ect. To so le namišljena bitja katerih "čudežev" tudi ni mogoče dokazat. Vanje lahko le veruješ, če si dovolj pritišjen... "Zeitgeist Exposed" je ena velika laž. Avtorji bi radi posredno dokazali obstoj klovnov tipa Horus, Mojzes, Jezusa, Mitre, Bude in njihovo "čudežnost"... Baraka tvoje reakcije me rahlo spominjajo na une bedake, ki se v imenu vere razstreljujejo... mal premisli! |
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