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1knap, rajši se vprašaj, kdo je kriv za te tisoče mrtvih po t.i. okupaciji Iraka.
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Staro 10.11.2006, 08:54
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Bechtel se umika

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...01/BECHTEL.TMP

Umik vsega ostalega je samo še vprašanje časa.
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Nazadnje uredil mataj : 10.11.2006 ob 09:50.
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1. upanje, da bi lahko konglomerat Siitov, Sunitov in Kurdov, se funkcioniral, kot enotna drzava, je jalovo - razen seveda, ce se "uvozi" kaksnega novega Sadama, pa se to dvomim ; 2. zelje, da bo irasko ljudstvo sprejelo zavojevalce odprtih rok in sirokega nasmeha, so bile zgolj zelje ( pac ne padajo vsi na Hollywoodske floskule ) in 3. krivi so Nemci --ki nekako nocejo vec financirati ameriske avanture, kot so jo v "prvi " vojni ---- skratka, ameriski napad na Iraq, se je izkazal za popolen fiasko , ki bo imel strahotne dolgorocne posledice za vso regijo in sirse -- "Haag, bi tu moral biti nuja"...
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4. Predvsem pa- ukrasti par milijard sodčkov nafte ni tako lahko kot se zdi. Tovrstnega plena namreč ne moreš kar natovoriti na helikopter in pocvirnati z njim.
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Staro 10.11.2006, 12:04
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leta 2004 je bil izdan nekaksen dokumentarec o razlogih za vojno v Iraku... v bistvu gre za sesuvanje uradnih razlogov s strani vrste politicnih in vojaskih strokovnjakov...

ce imate sanso, si ga poglejte:

Uncovered - The Whole Truth About the Iraq War


ena mini recenzija iz amazona:

"Uncovered - The Whole Truth about the Iraq War" is a chilling expos of the lies upon which the war on Iraq is based. This DVD reveals that the idea for war against Iraq came to the Bush administration on September 11th, 2001. They realized that the fear instilled in the US population by the terrorist attacks in New York and DC would be a wonderful way to mobilize the US population for war against Iraq. The only thing necessary was a justification, so they decided to mislead the US population into believing that Osama bin Laden and Saddam are partners, and that Iraq had nuclear capabilities that they planned to soon use against us. As this DVD reveals, these were all lies.

Most of the lies are by now well-known to those of us who were opposed to the war from the beginning: there are no weapons of mass destruction, Iraq was not gearing up for war with the US, Saddam and bin Laden are not partners and in fact opposed one another. But this documentary is still interesting because it contains the interviews of many people who have worked within the governmental and military system for decades, such as: former Ambassador Joe Wilson; weapons inspectors Scott Ritter and David Albright; anti-terrorism expert Rand Beers; former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, former CIA operative Robert Baer; and Washington editor of The Nation, David Corn. It's fascinating for me to see footage of people who are within the system, believe in the system, and yet are willing to come forward and speak out against Bush and the war on Iraq. For example, John Dean, former White House counsel, comments on the lies Bush told to Congress about Iraq's nuclear capabilities, explaining that it is a federal felony, a crime, to distort information that you present to congress.

I was also struck by the juxtaposition of archival footage, gleaned from a variety of talk shows and public addresses, of Bush, Powell, Rice, and other White House representatives, telling their lies and uttering their buzz words and catch phrases. Asking such ridiculous questions as, "Why should we wait for that smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud?" During the buildup to war I had avoided watching such addresses, (because I knew it was all nonsense) so it is interesting to now see such footage. It is so easy to see how all these appearances were scripted. Bush, Rice, Powell, and company, all come across as robots, shells of human beings. It made me wonder what it was like to lie to a nation, the entire world even, knowing that your lies would result in the deaths of thousands: about 10,000 innocent Iraqi civilians have been killed, and nearly 700 US soldiers have since been killed. It's a chilling thing to imagine. I don't know how they can sleep at night.

The documentary closes with some wonderful commentary on patriotism and all the propaganda we heard that those of us who oppose the war are traitors, that if you oppose the war then you are not supporting the troops. Milt Bearden, former CIA Station Chief in Pakistan with 30 years of service, comments that unlike just about anyone who holds office in the US, he has two sons who served in the military and even went into combat. In Mr. Bearden's words, "I don't have to take any such nonsense on this. And I won't."
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Je bila toleranca do Bushevih nasprotnikov in sploh tistih, ki so nasprotovali vojni v Iraku kr na psu - Nemčija 1935. Spomnte se kako so sesuli Deana, celo njegovi strankarski kolegi in kako so aplaudirali Bushu ko je v kongresu napovedoval vojno Iraku. To pa je bilo že kar grozljivo.
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Staro 10.11.2006, 12:44
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4. Predvsem pa- ukrasti par milijard sodčkov nafte ni tako lahko kot se zdi. Tovrstnega plena namreč ne moreš kar natovoriti na helikopter in pocvirnati z njim.
--mislim, da to vseeno ni bil primarni strateski cilj -- strateski cilj je imeti kontrolo nad Afganistanom in kontrolo nad Irakom --- namen, pa je seveda ne samo nadzor nad bliznjim vzhodom, pac pa se bolj nad Kaspijskim bazenom in centralno Azijskim plinovodom ( naftovodom ) -- ker v Iran iz mnogih razlogov ne morejo , sta bila Irak in Afganistan, druga najboljša možnost... -- sicer je res, da je USA 13 tril.$ ekonomija, vendar, pa tudi za tako silo 1-2 tril.$ stroskov ni macji kaselj, se posebej, ker EU, teh nebuloz noce vec sofinancirat...
 

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